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If You Build It, They Will Come: An Exclusive Interview with Lenny Bosh

By Jeb Wright

A successful businessman raises his family in the great Northeast.  He has a good life…a great life.  He is the embodiment of the American Dream.  He works hard.  He lives a good life.  Yet, something is missing.  Something is gnawing at him; something that has been there for years.  He has to do something.  He must do something.  He has toyed with the idea for years, even got serious about it from time-to-time only to see it fizzle back underneath the surface when life got too busy.  This happens again and again.  Finally, one day, he decides that he will no longer ignore that voice in the back of his head.  He will go to the beat of a different drummer, literally.

The man I describe in the previous paragraph is named Lenny Bosh.  His dream has become a reality.  He has self-released his first CD, Thoughts That I Collected.  He has no record label and no real plan of how to distribute the thing.  He hires a world famous guy to mix his music and signs on with a top notch publicity firm and throws caution to the wind.  Like most things Lenny does, he did this big.  The result is a fantastic collection of emotional and thought provoking songs.  While acoustic based, don’t be fooled; Lenny is a rocker at heart.  We will hear more music from him.  The first one came from the heart.  The next one may just come from the groin. 

Read on and discover a true diamond in the rough.  Let me introduce to you, the one and only, Lenny Bosh. 


Jeb:  I see where you had the American Dream of taking over your father's company.  Before we get into the music on your CD, tell me what you do.  

Lenny:  I own and run a small manufacturing company.  We manufacture products for the Navy and commercial nuclear markets mostly.  It’s really specialized valves made of exotic metals for high end applications. 

Jeb: You also are not a guy who has played guitar since he was a little kid.  How, when and why did you pick up the guitar?

Lenny:  I got a notion to play when I was 15.  I just said to myself, “I really want to learn how to play guitar.”  Probably because I was listening to early 80’s metal shredders and wanted to emulate them and be a cooler dude at school.  When I started playing – the guitar was a no name, brutal to play – I realized it was a source for me to get out what I had stuck inside me, being a teenager.  I suppose it’s that teenage emotion and angst.  I realized I picked things up quickly, had my own style and could keep up with most of my friends.  From there, it became an obsession.  I took six months of lessons and it didn’t get me what I wanted, which was a better ability to be more creative.  I felt confided by learning others music. 

Jeb:  Was acoustic always the way you expressed yourself?  Do you convey your visions better this way then on electric guitar? 

Lenny:  I hated the acoustic guitar growing up.  I had one and NEVER played it; it sat there collecting dust.  If it was not capable of having distortion I thought it was so not cool.  I was a metal head from the 80’s – even ballads bothered me.  Now, fast forward 20 years later, and there is nothing I love more than a nice acoustic guitar.  Now, Hall and Oates is cool to me.  I love Duran Duran and their guitar player, Andy Taylor.

What I didn’t expect is that my roots in music came, not from my 1980’s influences, but from my parents and my early pre-picking up the guitar days.  Buddy Holly, Elvis, Willie Nelson, Kris Kristofferson and Hank Williams Sr. are guys I just love even more now that I am older and wiser.

That said, I have some hard, rhythmic metal I would love to put out.  I am so confined for time it’s difficult because the music is more progressive and complex than the acoustic material.  Also, singing heavy metal is another art form that I just don’t have in me.  Some days I just crank up the amps and chug, chug away.  That’s probably an angry side coming out. 

Jeb: Did you always have the need to make this album?  Was it gnawing at you even when you were doing other things with your life? 

Lenny:  I always wanted my music to sound good enough to share with people.  To have what is in my head, on a CD so people could listen to it, is the dream.  When I gave the CD to people who knew me, they thought I just played guitar on the record and very few realized it was me singing. Since I was 18 and started writing my own songs, I really wanted my music out there.  It was a long road but I appreciate the CD so much more now.  It means more to me than a lot of things that have crossed my path in life.  I would forget about my dream of making a record when things got busy but quickly remind myself again of my hopes when I wrote a new song.  It was always there like a shadow – but you don’t see your shadow all the time.

Jeb:  Your lyrics seem to be very important to you.  Do you craft the music first or the words?

Lenny:  I usually start with some chord progressions or something I wrote on the guitar.  Then I might hum a melody or even make one lyric line and base things around that.  I keep lyric ideas in a file and go to that to work out the song.  It’s probably a forty-page file.  A lot of times it’s crafting from different ideas – maybe the verses have one focus and the chorus another.  I don’t do any story telling lyrics probably because I am not skilled enough.  I prefer to leave things open for people to connect to a subject matter in their own way.  I have more lyrics than I have music though at this point.  So somewhere all those thoughts will come out. 

Lyrics are very important to me.  I feel so naked with those words out there for the world to see and hear.  It gives me a sigh of relief when someone comes up and says, “That song reminds me of myself when I blank”.  That blank is different than what I was I experiencing but it really allows me to get deeper into the human psyche analyzing why a line of a song can have so many meanings. 

Jeb:  Tell me about "Take These Dreams." 

Lenny:  That was my first complete song that I thought was good enough to record.  I wrote it when I was 18 about myself from a quasi third person view.  When I had kids, I realized I could have written it for them.  It was complete when we started. Mike made a chord change in the chorus and really synced the song up.   

I am tired of a society where kids think they can’t be anything they want.  There is a whole new trend in twisting standard personality evaluations where people view individuals as having talent, so, in turn, they have an excuse to not even try.  For example, there is no point in playing golf since you can’t be as good as Tiger Woods, so why try.  Talent is our justification for not trying to be great.  Anyone can do ANYTHING they want – they just have to put the time and hard work in.  This has been shown by a recent influx of studies on the subject.  So instead of teaching people they can’t do certain things, why can’t we teach them how to work hard at something and they can be awesome?  Societal norms can be a real bitch.  Okay off the soapbox…

Jeb:  Talk about Forever and a Day." 

Lenny:  I am infatuated with dying. I know it’s creepy, but I am scared to death of dying and have not dealt with that inevitability yet.  I wanted a song to tell my children how much I love them, how they are seen by me, and how there is more to life than a beating heart.  Making everything relative to the earth or universe coincides with another interest of mine - the vastness of the universe.  The way that life seems like organized chaos and we humans think we impact things a billion light years away.  Our lives are short, especially compared to the universe, so I want them to know that everyday they are on my mind.   

There is a line in there that every parent I would think feels like.  We all want our kids to be better than us.  Kinder, smarter, healthier, you name it.  I hope my kids can right everything that’s wrong with me and, in a larger sense, that generations can right what we are doing wrong.

Jeb: How about "What If."

Lenny:  And a continuation to the previous answer…  I wondered what would happen if I died before my children grew older.  What would they do?  It’s that age-old question: What If?  So I started writing down ‘what if’ questions.  I really want them to look back at this CD, these songs, and these thoughts, and go, “I see a different man than I knew as a child.” 

That said, the chorus revolves around forgiveness.  A recent family event has caused most I know to feel things are right from their view, and that includes myself.  But as I matured through the situation, I realized that we all make mistakes, the bigger man forgives in the face of a spiteful man.  The bigger man does the harder thing.  The bigger man forgives instead of judges.  We are in a judgmental society.  It’s easy and makes us feel better about ourselves.  

Jeb:  Here is a hard one... often times singer/songwriters need angst, struggling and pain to get to that point where they can craft a meaningful song.  Your dad owned a factory, you took it over, you built a new house in the woods of Connecticut and when you had time and money you made your own album.  It does not sound like you paid dues, so to speak.  How do you see yourself compared to those tortured artists I am talking about? 

Lenny:  My time and success didn’t fall out of a tree.  I definitely paid my dues there.  I just didn’t pay my dues playing in clubs and standing on street corners and sending out a 1000 CDs a week.  I paid my dues working harder than anyone, working more hours and being more dedicated than the next guy.  So in theory, it’s the same principle just a different craft – one was business and one was music.  The good news is the principles hold true in both of them.  The emotions are the same and the success feels the same.  I am not a tortured artist, which I think brings a new perspective.  I still have a torn soul, but the music was beaten out of me.  The love of music is not tainted.  So the beauty still exists. 

Jeb: When did you finally say, "I have these songs, and damn it, I am going to record a CD if it kills me."

Lenny:  After I had the band Damone here at my studio I realized, “Why can’t I do this to my music?”  Mike Woods, their songwriter, was looking for some producing work to start a new career.  I said, “How about you do my music?”  If not for Mike this CD would never have come to fruition.  It was a lot of work for twenty-three minutes of music.  Five months of six-hour days. It was hard work and very rewarding. 

Jeb:  What was the process like, recording and performing your own music?

Lenny:  It was all a new experience.  I did some recording here but nothing of mine.  I wasn’t in a producer’s chair and had someone to sort of tell me what should happen, when and how.  I told Mike he had the pleasure of being one of the only people to kick me in the butt and get paid to do it.  All I had to do was wake him up in the morning.  We recorded all during the day and at night he used to do “comps” and get all the takes from that day organized for the next day.  Through this process I also gained a few new good friends.  We can all use more of those.

At first it was hard, I was not used to playing 4-6 hours a day or singing for more than an hour.  So I had lots of sore fingers.  Fortunately for me Mike preferred my voice after it was singing for a while because it gets pretty scratchy kind of like Rod Stewart.  I like to learn things and can be a quick study so that aspect of recording intrigued and enthused me.  Let’s face it a bad day in the studio recording music is better than a good at work.

Jeb:  You are kinda like the Christopher Cross of the New Millennium -- with a bigger voice!

Lenny:  Being compared to any professional in music is a big compliment.  Some say I remind them of Meat Loaf or a variety of other artists– no matter who it is – I take it as a big compliment.  So thank you!

Jeb:  Why do it yourself?  Why not shop labels?

Lenny:  Whew…in a nutshell – I don’t need label money behind me.  I am not a starving musician but a relatively successful businessman.  Honestly, it is difficult for me to get out there and play for 20 people for a year, and then 200 the next year.  I just won’t yield what I can at my normal job.  I think of my kid’s future and realize this works for all of us now and down the road.  If a label came to me, believed in me and would back me appropriately, I would take that in heartbeat.   But I don’t want to be a “maybe” and in today’s day and age, I can understand record companies not spending boat loads of money on unknown talent.  So if the CD does well – I am sure someone will listen! 

Jeb:  Do you think this music has a valid audience in 2009?  Are you shooting for the over 35 year olds, and if so, what is the plan to get the music to them?

Lenny:  I wasn’t aiming for anyone in any group or demographic.  I think I hit home with woman over 30 for the most part.  Probably because of the subject matter and tone of the CD.  But lots of guys like it too.  I don’t see teenagers putting it on their iPods and ripping through it like the All American Rejects!  I just want people to listen to the music – preferably more than once.  If they buy it and love it, what else can I ask for? 

I am working with a PR guy who has been in the business a long time.  Chipster Entertainment knows what they are doing.  But more importantly, he is an honest and upfront guy with good character.  It’s not some machine to take money but someone who believes in the project.  When I asked him to get involved he got some CDs, listened to it, himself, handed it around to people he trusts and see if it is worth his time.  Thankfully he got all good responses back and took me on. 

Jeb:  Are you willing to tour?  Play nasty bars?  Fight for success in the biz?  Or are you satisfied to do it on a smaller level? 

Lenny:  It’s really a monetary decision at this point.  I am a busy guy with the few companies I do have and they pay the bills pretty well for me.  They are going to provide my family with a future; so nasty bars are not in my future.  Success in the biz would be nice but I won’t sacrifice what I have built thus far.  I don’t need to sell a million records to feel good about my music.  I feel so awesome when someone emails me or just tells me “I love your music and here is why” it means someone took time out of their important lives and spent some time with my music.  That feeling can never get old.  If it does – then put me away somewhere! 

Jeb:  You speak of dreams.  What are your dreams, concerning music?  If you could have three wishes... 

Lenny:  I would measure my music success as more and more people listening to my music and wanting to have more.  That would be the ultimate goal.  I want to continue to hone my craft.  I don’t ever want to forget the simple things that make me happy and not appreciate what I have been blessed with thus far in life.   

Jeb:  Were you tempted to throw a few remakes on there to show your influences?  If so, what are your top three remakes you would consider?

Lenny:  Not that all of your questions were great thus far but this one really shows you know your stuff.  Without a doubt there were a few songs I wanted to throw in there and based on time, discussions with Mike Woods on the first CD and a few other things we decided against cover tunes.   I wanted to do an acoustic version of “Come Sail Away” by Styx.  I love that song.  I love the irony and the story.  I also wanted to do an old Kiss song, which is one of my favorite bands.  I would do something like “Hard Luck Woman” or something along those lines.  I thought about doing a few Kristofferson songs, not the common “Me and Bobby Mcgee” but something off his really politically motivated stuff like “Eagle or Bear” or one of my favorite songs “Johnny Lobo.” The chorus in “I Miss You” is my attempt to homage to that song, harmony wise.

Jeb:  Now that this one is in the bag... When will the next CD come out?

Lenny:  I had hoped this year.  But here we are towards the end of 2009 and that won’t happen.  I have spent a lot of effort trying to push the first CD while I work on songs for the next one.  I have about five songs done but would want to do more than 23 minutes for the next outing.  So if we are lucky – next year sometime.

Jeb:  You have done things kind of backwards in starting your musical career.  Doing it your way has to have made for some funny stories.  Care to share one?

Lenny:  Well I hear all the time “You’re putting into this what a record label would put into this” as far as support funding is concerned.  Okay, that’s not a funny story, but to me it is.  When I do things, I do things right and to the max all the time.  There is no point in doing things half speed.  Mike Woods teased me crazy because I had those cheap hand held plastic pencil sharpeners in the studio.  To him, that was funny and not like me.  I should have a fancy powered pencil sharpener. 

One of the funniest stories I have probably comes when we were mastering the CD.  I used Ted Jensen at Sterling Sound.  Now Ted’s first big success was the Eagles Hotel California and his latest big CD was Metallica’s Death Magnetic; he’s the real deal.  But since he works for a living, he was cool with taking me on if I could afford the tab.  I made an appointment and had to deal with his assistant for everything.  I decided that myself, the mixing engineering, and my friend, Greg Dicrosta, and Mike Woods would to to New York City for a few days for an all expense paid fun trip and mastering session.  Sterling Sound is in a great area, where Ted’s office overlooks New Jersey.  The studios are stellar in every way.  In his waiting room is the Eagles Hotel California plaque with something like 13 gold CDs representing a million each in sales.  We were so out of place.  I dress down all the time for pure comfort and had some sort of camouflage on, I am sure.  Mike Woods was in a phase where he wore this black winter hat that made him look just like he was a homeless guy who rolled out of a shelter.  Greg Dicrosta looked like a sound engineer student.  I mean we were a ragtag looking bunch; just crazy looking.

We went into Ted’s studio and he barely says a word to us.  He puts my first song on his gazillion dollar speaker system and it sounded amazing.  He paused the track about 30 seconds in and turned his chair around and said “I gotta be honest, when I saw you guys in the waiting room I was a little scared at what the day would bring, but this stuff sounds really good!”  Instantly, we all lit up and as it turned out, he was from the same town in Connecticut as my engineer and started off on trumpet too, same as Greg.  So we all got along great.  It feels good to have a guy of that caliber be happy with the songs and sounds he was hearing.  In hindsight, we probably should have looked more professional but it’s a better story this way.

Jeb:  Last one:  The album is called Thoughts I Collected.  Explain the title, and what new thoughts have come along since the album was finished?

Lenny:  The project was originally called Familia.  It was about family and I had this whole idea of having songs about different members and going haywire on this concept.  I slowed it down and really wanted to bookmark my life up to that point.  I wanted something I could hand my children and, as they get older, they can pull it out and go, “This is where our dad was at this point in his life.” 

Everything on the CD means something.  Every line, breath and note means SOMETHING to me.  I thought it went with that Americana vibe at the same time.  Of course, I took that line from the song “Waiting to be Free” and it made sense to me.  Last song, one of the lines, summing up the 23 minutes!

I have new thoughts.  I wish the world were getting better but it’s getting harder for me to stay positive when it seems greed, misuse of information, corruption and using people is becoming an acceptable norm.  Life in the States is so fast and so much a drive thru mentality, we miss all the beauty.  We need to slow down, shoot from the heart, and get back to the wholesome things we used to have in our culture.  

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