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Still Lucky: An Interview with Foghat's Roger Earl

By Jeb Wright

Foghat have become part of American popular music culture due to the song "Slow Ride."  Guitar Hero and other video games are introducing Foghat to a new generation and they are picking up on the boogie goodness of the band.  Foghat are much more than a one-hit band, however.  They have several gold and platinum albums and have a handful of classic tunes that are played to death everyday on classic rock radio.  

Foghat have released a new 'live in the studio' album that is sure to impress longtime fans of the band.  Several of the classics are included as well as some surprises.  There are also in-depth band interviews and lots of Roger Earl's unbridled wit.  The band recorded the tunes for The Long Island Blues Warehouse radio program.  As Foghat fans know, this band is amazing live.  This performance was no exception.  Foghat live in any setting equals an incredible, passionate and spirited performance.  In this interview we discuss the new album, as well as the new Foghat wine that is now available. 

On Halloween, I was in the audience in a casino in Oklahoma to see the band play and to meet with Roger before the show.  Roger would not answer his cell phone.  Something seemed odd.  Suddenly, paramedics showed up and Roger was taken out on a stretcher.  In this interview, for the first time, Roger Earl discusses what happened, the injuries he sustained that night and his road to recovery.    

Read on and enjoy a chat with a one of a kind man.  Ladies and gentlemen, I present...Roger Earl!


Jeb: Let's talk about the new album.

Roger: We did a radio broadcast where we gave away our performance for free.  Oh why not?  Rock 'n' Roll has been good to me.  We did that with Mark Klein and his show The Long Island Blues Warehouse about a year and a half ago.  You heard about my fall didn't you?

Jeb: I was there. 

Roger: That's right.  I didn't get to see you that night, did I? 

Jeb: I called your cell phone and there was no answer.  Suddenly, they were blocking everyone off and an ambulance showed up.  Everyone wondered what had happened. 

Roger: Well, you can be the first one to hear the story from the horse's ass's mouth.  I went up on stage to check my drums about a half an hour before show time, to make sure everything was right and all the monitors were correct.  I stood up and looked down.  The drum riser was about a foot and a half from the edge of the stage.  Behind the stage was a big, dark curtain.  It looked like the stage was there.  I put my foot down and there was nothing there at all.  I went over and I hit my head, on the way down, on a concrete wall.  I broke the fall with my right arm, and that broke my clavicle . . .my collarbone.  I, then, hit the base of my spine, which crushed my L2; I had a compression fracture on that.  It was the most painful part.  I am lying there, crying like a baby, and I realized I had done some damage.  After a couple of seconds had passed, I was able to move my fingers and toes, so I figured I had not severed my spine.  I could not move at the time because there was an unbelievable pain going up and down my back.  A couple of the security people wanted to take me away but me tour manager told them to leave me alone and to call an ambulance. 

The ambulance people were very good.  They put me on a hard stretcher and put my neck in a brace.  I am laying on the floor on my left side, checking to see what kind of damage I had done to myself.  I looked at my right hand and I thought, "That doesn't look right."  The hospital people were very nice but about three o'clock in the morning, they decided there was nothing wrong with me.  They knew I had a broken collarbone.  They pumped me full of drugs and they told me to get up.  I told them that I didn't think that I could.  They said to get up and when I did, I passed out.  I ended up staying there a few days.  They missed the fracture that I had on my back. 

My wife, Linda, does all the computers at the University Hospital for Neurosurgery in Long Island.  I have become friends with a number of the brain surgeons.  They are all guitar players and I have got up and jammed with them on various charitable occasions.  We flew back and I got here on Sunday night.  We went to the emergency room and they pumped me full of pills and asked me to come back the next day.  I went home but I could barely walk; I was basically crawling.  On Monday morning, I went in and they opened my shoulder up and clamped my clavicle together.  On Tuesday, I got Kyphosplasty on my spine.  They put these two little needles in the side of my spine and blew it up and filled it with bone cement.  Apparently, it was originally designed for people who have Osteoporosis.  I was able to sit up the next morning and walk without too much pain.  It was really amazing.  I still have a lot of soreness in my shoulder.  I am starting to get my range back.  I had to move the drums in a little closer and I ordered some smaller cymbals.    I was very proactive about it because there are eight people who rely on me to make a living.  I could not be lying there taking drugs and telling them that I couldn't play. 

Jeb: That was back in the 70's when you did that.

Roger: Hey, I could always play! 

Jeb: Drummers sit down when they play.  I would think that would have to aggravate your injury. 

Roger: When you get up after about an hour and a half it is a bit uncomfortable.  I have got to tell you that I had never broke anything in my life.  I have dropped out of trees and I have fell head over heals on my bike and walked away from it.  After that happened to me, I kind of realized what I had.  You don't really know what you have till it is thrown out the window.  I had my arm in a sling for eight weeks.  My right arm pretty much disappeared.  I pretty much had a bone with flesh hanging off of it.  It was not a pretty sight. 

I had my practice kit up in the bedroom and I would practice.  I have a hell of a left hand again.  Eventually, I was able to drag my right arm in and start using it.  I can play now.  I am really fortunate because the surgeons told me that they have seen people with similar falls who are not here any longer.

Jeb: It sounds like you are lucky that you didn't snap your neck in two. 

Roger: I am lucky to be here and I am glad to be here.  I am rocking again.  The band was terrific.  I spent a lot of time working on my practice kit in the bedroom and when I got tired I would just go lay down.  We have a band rehearsal house down in Florida.  At first, I could only play about an hour.  Then I got up to an hour and a half.  Now, I am back to rocking.  I missed four months with these injuries.  The surgeons told me that normal people take a year off after such a fall.  They told me that they would treat me like an athlete.  What I do has physical side to it.  I really have improved my left hand, so I am looking on the bright side. 

Jeb: Your drum tech filled in that night.  He looked nervous but he did good.

Roger: Danny is a great player.  He has been my drum tech, on and off, since about '86.  I have tried to get him gigs a number of times.  If anyone calls in and asks if I know a good drummer, I recommend Danny.  He used to play with Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels.  He's not me but....

As I was being taken off on the stretcher, I said, "Danny, just get up and play the fucking drums tonight."  He said, "I am coming to the hospital with you."  I said, "Go get on the fucking drums and play."  The thing is the plane tickets are paid for and we had the money.  It was Halloween, so there was a party going on. 

We cancelled two or three shows after that.  Normally, throughout the winter we would have done six to twelve shows but Linda called up our agent and told them that we would let them know when we could book shows again.  I have got four shows done now and everything is fine.  The first show was in Phoenix and there were a lot of people there.  I had to get up at three thirty in the morning the next day to get to the airport and fly to New Hampshire to play for a benefit for the Make A Wish Foundation.  It is something that is close to my heart and I got to play with some friends that I had not seen for some time.  I played for about two hours and had a blast.  We made a bunch of money for the foundation.  I jumped right into the deep end and it was a bunch of fun. 

Jeb: Knowing you like I do, I can't imagine a life without music for you.  It must have been frightening. 

Roger: It was scary.  When I first took the sling off my arm, my right arm, I am right-handed, it was just skin and bone.  It looked like I was some sixty-year-old man.  Oh, I am a sixty-year-old man, but I am not supposed to look like one!  It was scary not to be able to lift it or have any strength in it.  I am very fortunate because I am on the right side of the grass, playing in a great rock 'n' roll band and my wife loves me.

Jeb: I am glad you came out of that okay.  Let's talk about the new live album.  Not many bands put out back-to-back live releases.

Roger: You're right, let's talk about that.  We have talked enough about falling off stages.  The bottom line on that is: Don't do it.

Jeb:  [laughter] So, you got asked to play in the studio... 

Roger: We were asked to do the radio broadcast by Mark Klein, who has The Blues Warehouse Show in Long Island.  He dug up a few tunes that we had not played before, or had not played in a long time.  It was a lot of fun.  It went direct to two tracks, so there was not a chance to mix it.  Afterwards, we came out to the house, out here on the island, and we barbequed stuff and had marguerites.  Carl, our sound engineer, had a disc of the performance and we put it on the stereo.  It sounded terrific.  We were all pleasantly surprised at how good it sounded.  It sounded so good that we decided to just put it out.  It was also the inspiration to put out a blues album.  We took about three songs from the Blues Warehouse session and we recorded six more songs that we had never done.  We also have two originals coming out.  We should have a blues album out later in the year. 

Jeb: I can't wait to hear that.

Roger: We have a number of guests playing on it.  My brother, Colin, is playing piano on a number of tracks.  Blues music was my inspiration for banging on stuff. 

Jeb: Is this Foghat boogie blues or traditional blues?

Roger: We re-recorded a few Foghat songs that we have done in the past, like "Feels So Bad" and stuff like that.  We did a couple of old Savoy Brown tunes as well.  It is exciting and a lot of fun.  We have two more tracks to do and then we can do the artwork for the album.   

Jeb: The radio broadcast came out sounding much better than a normal radio broadcast. 

Roger: Carl, our sound engineer, was mixing it as we were going along.  I was really pleased with it.  The last thing we needed to do was to put another live album out but it was so good that we just had put it out for the fans. 

Jeb: I like how you added the interviews with the band on there as well. 

Roger: It was a very different kind of attitude than we had done before.  A lot of the fans told us they found it interesting.  We covered the history of the band.  We also added a couple of songs on that one that we had not played for ages.  We have been around for quite a while, you know. 

Jeb: You also have nicknames for all the band members.  You are the Hounslow Kid. Where did that come from?

Roger: I think we had been drinking.  I grew up there.  I believe Phil Collins came from Hounslow.  Isn't he a terrific drummer?  He does not play as much as he used too. 

Jeb: Live II, the album that came before the new one, is an amazing live album.  Foghat Live is one of the best live albums ever but Live II is equally amazing.  What makes Foghat such a consistent live band? 

Roger: I think you have to have a passion for music.  Without passion, it won't come through.  Charlie Huhn is a great singer and musician, who is always up for the fight, and ready to play.  We take it very seriously.  People pay good money to come and see us.  Before we went out this year, we spent a week in Florida rehearsing.  Prior to that, we picked out a couple of new songs that we had never played before.  The bottom line is that if you don't love what you are doing then why are you out there doing it?  We are very fortunate to be able to do this.  Other people have to go to work but we have to go to play. 

Jeb: Rich Williams of Kansas told me that he gets paid to travel but he plays for free. 

Roger: That is good; I like that.  Travel can also be fun.  We get to go to some pretty interesting places.  I have been touring this land since the late sixties.  Even now, I find some very interesting places to see and I get to meet some really interesting people.  If I weren't doing this, I would probably be a bum and travel.  Oh wait, I am a bum and I do travel!

Jeb: Does having Craig back in the band bring it to a higher level than before?

Roger: Craig is my brother from another mother.  I love playing with Craig.  Bryan Basset, our guitarist, said that Craig really lit up the stage when he started playing with us again.  He brings energy to the show.  He makes a huge difference, as far as I am concerned.  Craig is one of the reasons that I wanted to do Live II.  I knew we had something special going again.  He was the missing link for a while.

When the original band was going to reform in 1993, Craig was Lonesome Dave's and my first choice to bring back.  Nick Jamison was the second choice but he is an actor now and was not available. 

Jeb: Bryan is still getting better.  He has not had the best come out of him yet.  You can tell he is really getting ready to break out. 

Roger: Bryan is one of the reasons that I wanted to do the blues album.  It really gives Bryan a chance to shine.  Bryan used to produce a lot of blues albums for Kingsnake Studios down in Florida.  He has always been a huge blues fan.  This project will really show people what an incredible guitar player he is. 

Jeb: People always talk about Charlie's vocals but he can play the guitar too. 

Roger: He is a great guitar player.  He is not unlike Dave in lots of ways as he pushes everything up to ten.  You ask him to turn it down and he tells you the knob broke off. 

Jeb: Going way back, three of you were members of Savoy Brown.  Lonesome Dave, Tony Stevens and yourself were having a lot of success.  Why did you step away from that?

Roger: We were on the road and playing in San Francisco.  Dave, Tony and myself were jamming at sound check and Kim [Simmonds] came in.  He was not happy and he ended up firing Tony - who was always getting fired.  Kim offered Dave and I some kind of agreement...I am not really sure what that was all about.  We all went to my room, back at the hotel, and the three of us had a meeting.  Dave always carried an acoustic guitar with him, and that night he wrote "Fool's Hall of Fame," which is on our first album. 

Tony had been axed, so it was up to Dave and I to decide. The band was getting kind of strange and Kim wanted to take things in another direction.  Having said that, I believe they had a number of hit records after we left.  We don't want to go there...

The next day, we went downstairs and had breakfast with Harry Simmonds, who was Kim's brother, and the band's manager.  We told him that we would stay for as long as he needed us but we were going to leave.  He said, "You can't do that."  We told him that we were basically told that Kim was not happy with the way we were playing and that if we wanted to stay then we would have to do this or that.  So, we decided it was time for a change. 

Harry told us that we would never work in England again.  True to his word, we went back to England after the tour was done, and we tried to get with an agency and no one would touch us.  Harry was managing Chicken Shack and Savoy Brown, who were two of the biggest acts in London at the time.  We were really struggling and floundering around for a while.  Harry Simmonds really did stop us from working for a while.  He was a real scumbag.  I think he ended up going to jail for some kind of drug charges after that.  It serves him right. 

Jeb: Did Kim try to make Savoy Brown into The Kim Simmonds Band?

Roger: I am not sure.  Both Lonesome Dave and I were really grateful to Kim for giving us our shot.  We had some really good times.  Kim did very well after we left.  They had three or four big selling records after we left.  At the same time, we didn't do too badly either.  I am still good friends with Kim and I talk to him a couple of times a year.  I did a session with Kim about ten years ago and his playing is sounding great.  

Jeb: Foghat was a very American sounding British band. 

Roger: I am the only tea bag left in the band at the moment.  The rest of the guys in the band talk a bit funny but I like them.  I have seen Foghat on compilations that advertised us as Southern Rock.  We did come from south London [laughter]. 

Our influences were American.  Dave, Rod and myself actually moved to the States back in 1973.  Tony Stevens didn't want to move here.  He was living with his mother back in London.  He wanted to take two years off and not do anything.  I couldn't sit around for two years and do nothing.  Playing music is a huge part of life.  I ate that stuff for breakfast.

Jeb: Where did you find Rod Price?

Roger: We advertised in Melody Maker and Rod applied for the job.  Dave had already met Rod and played with him.  We had a couple of Eric Clapton and Peter Green wanna-be's but they were not good.  Rod had a very unique way of playing, especially with his slide playing.  He was a very emotional player. 

Jeb: Was it special for you guys that you were able to get the original Foghat back together before Dave died? 

Roger: I love to play, as you know.  Just give me a pair of sticks and sit me in a blues or rock club and I will have a blast.  Getting the original band back together was great but it could have been handled better.  We needed proper management.  I really, really enjoyed Return of the Boogie Men.  Rod was struggling with various things at that time but he pulled it off.  It was not handled well.  We got the band back together and we went out on the road for three weeks and then sat around for a year and a half.  It was like, "What the fuck is this all about?"  I will tell you that manager is no longer with us. 

Jeb: How is the wine business?

Roger: Good subject!  The wine is going great.  Our first offering...did you get one yet?

Jeb: Remember, I don't drink.

Roger: You don't drink?  What is wrong with you?

Jeb: I used to drink.

Roger: You used to drink more than your fair share.  Ah, then I won't send you one.  I won't be cruel.  You would start drinking again if you tasted this.  Actually, I have a number of friends who don't drink...and they are still my friends [laughter]. 

The first offering is a 2005 Cabernet.  It is from central California and it is great.  We have a Chardonnay that is in barrels right now that I helped pick last year.  We also have Celebration Sellers out of Southern California.  Several artists have done this sort of thing.  Celine Dion has her own wine.  I think Cher has one.  Wait, it is not Cher, it is Bon Jovi...I knew it was someone like that.  The Rolling Stones and Kiss have one.  Kiss don't drink anymore do they?

Jeb: No, but if Gene can sell it then he will have his name on it. 

Roger: That's right.  He is a slut.  I have met Gene a number of times and I really like him.  The wine is going really well.  We went to a friend's house, out on the island, a while back and I brought out a couple of bottles of wine.  The bottles are engraved with 'Foghat' on it, one is red and one is a sort of florescent green.  There is also a bottle with the cover for Fool for the City where I am fishing out of a manhole cover. 

I gave them the wine and I told them that they were not for drinking, that they could just put them up on their shelf.  It was a party and everyone had a few and somebody opened one of them and everyone said, "These are pretty good."  They really are good tasting wines.  When we went to Celebration Cellars, we tasted their wine and really liked it.  You get crappy stuff from France but California doesn't put out bad wine.  You can get Two Buck Chuck and it is drinkable.  In France, you get cheap wine and it tastes like bad vinegar.

Some fans told us that our song "Driving Wheel" was in a move called Bottle Shock.  I rented it and really liked it.  It is based on a true story about an Englishman living in Paris, who wants to put the California winemakers in their place by having a blind wine tasting contest.  The California wines won, hands down. 

I really have enjoyed meeting the people who grow the grapes.  They are farmers, salt of the earth people.  Our winemaker, Steve Rasmussen, is very special.  He introduces us to all these terrific winemakers.  It is a lot of fun.  Winemakers and wine growers are not that different than rock 'n' rollers.  Music and wine go very well together. 

Jeb: Last question: You know I love the music that you have made.  But I have to ask what were you thinking with "Third Time Lucky?"

Roger: I didn't write that one.  That song was off of the Boogie Motel album and was a big hit for us.  It was played on soft rock stations and nobody knew it was a Foghat single.  Here is one for you, Jeb...are you ready?  We are playing that on tour this year.   

Jeb: No way. 

Roger: Yes way.  We are playing it.  We never have played it live before.  Rod was going through a difficult time.  He played on the record but he never played it live.  I told the guys this year, "I want to try playing this song."  Bryan was up for it because it was a song that was very close to Dave's heart.  Craig and Charlie were like, "I don't know about that."  

I told them, "Just learn it and bear with me."  After the second or third time playing it, everyone agreed that the song sounded really good.  We played a couple of biker events and the bikers knew every word.  I used to say that we would never play a stinking ballad but now we are playing one.  It is our token ballad.  I must admit that I am really enjoying playing it.

This is how I talked the rest of the band into it...I said, "Eric Clapton does ballads.  Bruce Springsteen does ballads and even Kiss did a ballad."  I am not aligning our selves with those bands but I said it to prove a point.  It is okay to play a ballad; it is not illegal for a boogie band to play a ballad.  We have a token ballad and you may well enjoy it.  I will admit; it was a hard sell to the band. 

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