By Ryan
Sparks
The
British band UFO has been responsible for creating some of
the finest melodic hard rock ever since their inception in
1969. The arrival of German guitarist Michael Schenker in
time for 1974’s Phenomenon album meant they could
leave the Eddie Cochran, Bo Diddley covers, and twenty six
minute side long compositions behind for good. With Schenker
on board UFO was transformed into a well oiled machine
almost overnight and the band churned out one classic album
after another. The records Force It (1975), No
Heavy Petting (1976), Lights Out (1977) and
Obsession (1978) effectively sealed the bands place in
the annals of rock history. Schenker departed after the
Obsession tour but not before some of those performances
could be captured in time forever on Strangers In The
Night (1979), arguably one of the best live albums of
all time.
The
only constant throughout the bands forty year history has
been vocalist Phil Mogg. He soldiered on with various
different lineups throughout the 80’s and 90’s as band
members came and went, some more than once. Schenker came
back to the fold a few times with mixed results, as
personality clashes and unstable behavior caused him to
leave for good (or so one would assume, although with UFO
nothing is ever etched in stone) after the Sharks
album in 2002.
After a
few years off Mogg, bassist Pete Way (another original
member) and keyboardist / guitarist Paul Raymond regrouped
with drummer Jason Bonham and American guitarist Vinnie
Moore. A fresh new chapter in the bands storied and often
complex history began with 2004’s You Are Here album.
Bonham would leave for seemingly greener pastures not long
afterwards, eventually clearing the way for the return of
Andy Parker, another original member. This lineup has proved
to be one of the most stable in recent years having now
recorded two albums together, with the second one The
Visitor getting set to drop next month.
Vinnie
Moore stepped up to the plate and delivered in spades once
again. If you only know Vinnie from his mind boggling,
lightning fast neo-classical shred fests from the 80’s well
you are in for a big surprise. His youthful energy has been
a real shot in the arm for the band and from day one he has
been Phil’s main song writing collaborator.
I
recently caught up with “The Duke Of Delaware” to get the
lowdown on the forthcoming new album, the bands tour plans
for later this year as well as an update on the health of
Way, who is currently undergoing treatment for liver disease
and was unfortunately unable to participate in the recording
sessions for The Visitor.
Ryan:
This is your third album now with the band. How would you
describe the evolution process within the band from You
Are Here to The Visitor?
Vinnie:
I think we’ve gotten closer because we’ve been on the road
so much. We’ve toured and done so many shows together that
we’ve gotten to know one another just from hanging out. By
doing that you become more familiar with people and the
writing gets easier. You become more aware of what people
respond to creatively, and you just get better at working
together.
Ryan: I
think one of the most apparent things as far as the three
studio albums are concerned is that The Visitor
sounds more confident. All of the classic elements of UFO
are displayed throughout the album but the band sounds like
it’s really starting to gel and taking it that next level.
Vinnie:
That also might be because we’ve played so much together
live and we’ve become better friends, so our rapport is kind
of building up.
Ryan:
Over the course of the past three albums the band has been
able to take this material and move forward and I think it
shows the band is establishing its own identity without
having to rely on just the name UFO would you agree?
Vinnie:
Yeah I think Phil’s voice is the common thread that makes it
UFO. Also when I write songs for the band, I happen to be a
big fan of the band and I have been since I was a kid, so I
kind of write knowing it’s a rock band that I’m writing for.
I write songs that are in the ballpark of what the band does
stylistically. Whereas with my solo stuff I might be more
adventurous and I can throw in all kinds of crazy stuff
musically, but I realize that when I’m writing for UFO that
it’s a rock band, so it has to be in a certain direction and
it has to rock.
Ryan:
You have certain parameters that you have to sort of stick
to.
Vinnie:
That’s true. I also present Phil with like fifteen ideas and
the ones he selects as a vocalist and lyricist, also kind of
makes it more UFO as well. But yeah I think the fact that I
write a lot and do a lot of different styles of music and
current stuff kind of keeps things fresh. When we play
together, even with Andy’s drumming it becomes UFO. There’s
a certain identity and style there.
Ryan:
Right from the onset you assumed an important role in the
songwriting department. Was it an easy adjustment for you,
did you have any difficulties or challenges adapting to
their sound?
Vinnie:
Not much because like I said I was into them as I was
growing up. I actually used to learn their songs and do a
lot of them, so stylistically I don’t think it was much of a
stretch for me to fit in, where theoretically there could be
other gigs that I would be interested in where I might not
have fit in so easily, and I’d have to work a little harder
to fit in. With this thing it was easy, right up my alley.
Ryan:
No one would dispute your technical abilities as a guitarist
but did you feel any trepidation from the fans being a
guitar player primarily known for your instrumental work and
coming into a classic rock band like UFO?
Vinnie:
I think probably with the true hard-core fans definitely. In
fact I did an interview with Eddie Trunk the other night, he
is a huge fan of the band and he told me that when he first
heard that I was joining the band he was a little worried.
Being the huge UFO fan that he is he wanted to make sure
they had the right guy. So yeah there was some of that from
the fans, but I personally don’t think about stuff like that
and it’s not something I should really be concerned with. I
just need to do what I do which is play and write and do my
job.
Ryan:
The band had over thirty tracks written for The Visitor,
is it difficult to whittle it down to ten or twelve songs?
Vinnie:
It is difficult to whittle it down, but where the number
thirty five or whatever it is came from I have no idea
because I seriously doubt we had that many. That sounds like
a bit of an invented thing there. We probably had about
twenty. Yeah it does take time to whittle it down and part
of that is getting together and rehearsing and just seeing
what works when you play together. Certain songs are
obviously strong and they need to be on the record and with
others there’s a few good ones where you think hmm… “Which
one do we choose or which one’s right stylistically?” It’s
just a matter of getting together and playing and seeing
what feels best.
Ryan:
You’re based in the States and the other guys are over in
the UK is that right?
Vinnie:
Actually our drummer Andy lives in Texas near Dallas. I’m
near Philadelphia and Phil and Paul are close to London.
Ryan: I
mean it must be difficult logistically for you to get
together to play and rehearse. How does that work?
Vinnie:
If we’re doing a tour, as far as Europe is concerned we’ve
made Hanover Germany our home base because that’s where our
manager is from and that’s where all our European gear is.
So if we’re touring we all just meet there, rehearse for
maybe two or three days depending on how much we’ve played
together, and we get on the bus and we go out and tour. If
we’re doing shows in America then our base is here in my
area near Philadelphia. We have a rehearsal studio that we
use and our American gear is here in storage. So we’ll get
together and rehearse near my house and then get on the bus
and travel from here. If we’re doing an album we’ll meet for
usually a week in Hanover and start recording from there.
Ryan:
You’ve been doing your last few albums there at Area 51.
Vinnie:
Yeah in Celle which is about an hour from Hanover. That’s
where we do the basics and the vocals. I actually do the
guitars at home in my studio.
Ryan:
So you can exchange ideas back and forth.
Vinnie:
Yeah its really cool man to use the technology, its pretty
amazing. For this record we had done rehearsals, Andy was in
the studio laying down the drums and we were totally in the
process of doing the record and I was sitting around
watching The Simpsons one night playing guitar and I came up
with this riff. I thought this sounds cool for UFO so I
started working on it and in like ten minutes I had a whole
song structure. I thought that it really sounded like UFO
and that we didn’t really have anything on the new record
like this. I went in my studio and laid down a demo real
quick and I e-mailed it to everybody and uploaded the file
of the song to a server. The next morning I got a call at
like 10 am, it was like six hours ahead in Germany, they
loved the track and had already finished recording the drums
for it. That track ended up on the record and it’s called
“Hell Driver”.
Ryan:
Great track that one.
Vinnie:
Yeah it was just a totally last minute spur of the moment
type of thing. Even though you get together to rehearse and
plan this stuff out, sometimes there’s these little
accidental things that kind of happen as well.
Ryan:
It’s like you said with the technology being what it is
today you would not have been able to do this back in the
day. Now everybody can work in their home studios with Pro
Tools or whatever they need.
Vinnie:
I think everybody has their own environment that is more
conducive for them to be creative. For some people that
might be getting together with the whole band and for others
like myself, its locking myself away privately, because
that’s where I thrive the most. The technology is great
because it allows everyone to do it his or her own way now.
Ryan: I
know Phil is quite fond of the old blues men. It seems like
there is more of that kind of blues influence in songs like
“Saving Me” and “Rock Ready” which has that real swampy
blues feel to them.
Vinne:
[laughs] Those are both my tunes and I’m a blues guy that
was definitely influenced by blues growing up. Those were
two of the last songs that I wrote for this record and it
was really kind of an adjustment on my part. As we were
working I saw what kind of things Phil was responding to. I
know he’s really into the blues and at some point it became
a conscious thing on my part to say “Ok this is what he’s
really responding to, I’m going to give him a couple of
things in that direction”, so I wrote those two songs.
Immediately after he heard them he said “These are the best,
this is great” and in fact he was joking with me in an
e-mail “These two new tracks are unbelievable, are you doing
drugs now?”
Ryan:
[laughing] I guess that’s a compliment right?
Vinnie:
Yeah that was his way of complimenting me.
Ryan:
On the topic of lyrics, Phil has always been a great
lyricist and known for spinning tall tales that are full of
imagery. For your part in the songwriting process what
methods do you use or how do you go about setting these
colorful images to music through your guitar playing?
Vinnie:
Well actually his lyrics come after. He’s the kind of guy
who does it all last minute. I think he works great under
pressure. When we get together to rehearse he doesn’t even
sing most of the time. It’s insane because we have no idea
what he’s going to sing on a lot of the songs and there’s no
way we know any of the lyrics. He just sits at rehearsals
and kind of observes and feeds on the vibe to get the
creative juices flowing for him I guess. I just play and he
does his thing after the fact.
Ryan:
You’ve described a bit of the writing process, but would you
say it’s a collaborative effort between yourself and Phil or
does everyone get involved?
Vinnie:
I have six songs on the new record, Paul has maybe three or
four and Andy contributed one. With regards to my stuff, I
write and record a lot so I present finished ideas. I’m
never a guy that presents like two riffs to make a song out
of. I’m too much of type A personality for that. I usually
present totally finished ideas, so it’s more of a
collaborative effort between Phil and I.
Ryan:
The last two tracks on the album are excellent, “Villains
and Thieves” and “Stranger In Town”.
Vinnie:
“Stranger In Town” is the one that Andy wrote with Bobby
Barth from Blackfoot. They wrote the music and then Phil
wrote his lyrics and melodies over top of that. “Villains
and Thieves” is one of Paul’s songs.
Ryan: I
don’t have any of the credits on the copy that I have, it’s
just the bare bones version.
Vinnie:
I’ve noticed that because a couple of people have mentioned
the same thing.
Ryan:
In the live arena with regards to playing the older
material, specifically when it comes to interpreting
Michael’s solos, I guess you have to strike a balance with
playing what the audience is kind of familiar with but also
at the same time you need to put your own stamp on it as
well. There’s lots of room to improvise is what I’m getting
at.
Vinnie:
I’ve kind of approached it the way I approach my songs if I
were playing live. Some sections are a very important part
of the song, whether it’s the melody or whatever and these
parts need to be played because they’re part of the song.
Then there’s other parts that I just improvise because
that’s what I did when I recorded it anyway, and sometimes
in the middle of a solo if there’s a key melody or trademark
melody that stands out I’ll try to hit that. It’s a
combination of both.
Ryan:
With three albums under your belts now how you go about
selecting a set list? You still have to play the older
material naturally, but how do you decide which of the newer
songs to include?
Vinnie:
We play like and hour and forty five minutes and it’s really
difficult to choose a set list. There’s so many songs that
the fans expect to hear, and we want to do stuff from the
new record and maybe something from Monkey Puzzle or
You Are Here. Then there are certain fans that want
to hear something from the Chapman era or from a particular
record. There’s just not enough time in the evening to do
all the songs, and you always get flak for it from the fans
after the show. We try to choose what’s best and just go for
it.
Ryan:
What songs can fans expect to hear from The Visitor?
Vinnie:
I think we’re going to be doing “Saving Me”, “Hell Driver”
and maybe “Living Proof”. Those are probably the three that
we’re going to do.
Ryan:
I’m sure everyone would like to know the latest on Pete and
how he’s doing.
Vinnie:
I haven’t talked to him in a few weeks. The last time I
spoke to him he was ok. He’s hanging in there but he’s
really depressed that he can’t come out with us and it’s
kind of a sad situation. I really like Pete, he’s such a big
part of the band and it’s just sad that he can’t come out
and do it.
Ryan:
Is there a chance he’ll hook up with the band at some point
during the summer and fall tour, has that idea been thrown
around at all?
Vinnie:
At this point there are no plans. We have Barry Sparks
playing with us on the upcoming shows in Europe and beyond
that I don’t know what’s going to happen.
Ryan:
Last question or just a comment really. I have to say that
you’ve certainly come a long way from Vicious Rumors.
Vinnie:
[laughing]
Ryan:
From that band to how you’ve evolved as a player throughout
your solo career, to the point where you’re at today with
your most recent solo effort To The Core and now with
The Visitor both out at the same time. It just
highlights the balance and diversity that you’ve been known
for throughout your career.
Vinnie:
Thanks man. I’ve been really busy you know. Two records
coming out within one week is pretty crazy and I didn’t
really plan on that but it’s a pretty cool thing. Sometimes
I forget what I’m supposed to be doing. Earlier today I was
doing an interview and I didn’t know if the guy who was
interviewing me was interviewing me for UFO or for my solo
album. He was referring to the record being really good and
that he thought this about the record and I was just kind of
listening and waiting for him to give it away what he was
talking about.
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