By Jeb WrightOne of the biggest tour of 2009 will be
Aerosmith hitting the road with ZZ Top. Both bands feature
all original members and are all members of The Rock "n"
Roll Hall of Fame. Aerosmith has been given an Icon award by
MTV and ZZ Top have been given Rock Honors by VH1. The tour
promises to be an amazing night of music.
In this interview, we discuss the upcoming tour, as well
as when Aerosmith opened for ZZ Top and their entourage of
farm animals. We also talk about how Hamilton has overcome
cancer. Tom opens up to discuss how MTV played a part in the
band getting back together and how he discovered just how
far down his band mates, Steven Tyler and Joe Perry, fell
into their drug addiction.
Tom also admits the possibility of Aerosmith performing
Toys in the Attic, the entire album, from
start-to-finish during the upcoming tour. While it is not
100% a sure thing, he admits it is something he would enjoy
doing. While Aerosmith struggles with how to appease the old
school fans, and the newer fans, with a compromising set
list, one can rest assured they will find a way to have
everyone go home happy.
Aerosmith has grabbed the brass ring, discarded it in a
haze of drugs and, somehow, had a moment of clarity and
regained the ring once again. An American iconic band,
Aerosmith continues to walk their own way, only occasionally
glimpsing back to the past, but more determined than ever to
succeed in the future.
Jeb: ZZ Top and Aerosmith are going on the road. When
were the seeds for this tour planted?
Tom: About two months ago, we were at the point where we
needed to figure out what kind of band we wanted to take out
on tour. It is usually who is available that determines that
process. Our manager calls out of the blue one day and says,
"What do you think about touring with ZZ Top?" My initial
reaction was, "Absolutely." I love bands that have a lot of
good songs and ZZ has tons of good songs.
We are in this period where people are always commenting
on how old we are and how long we have been doing this.
There was a point in the past where we would have thought
that we had to get a different band, so it doesn’t look like
an old guy show. Nowadays, the fans don’t think about that;
people in the press think about that. Some of the more
precious, new entertainment sites were all pointing the age
factor out, as if that was something new. I am like, "Are
you kidding? We get to hear Billy Gibbons play guitar every
night." A lot of people are going to look forward to that.
There are other bands out there who are newer, cooler and
hipper but the audience is not going to be rocking out to
every single song like they will be with ZZ Top.
Jeb: Every member of both bands, all eight of you, are
original members and are all members of the Rock ‘n’ Roll
Hall of Fame. I wonder if you have thought of a jam with
everyone on stage . . .
Tom: I hope we get some kind of jamming thing going on.
We have not talked to them about it, and it is not in the
least expected. I would love it if it turned into that kind
of thing.
Jeb: I don’t remember ever hearing about ZZ Top and
Aerosmith touring.
Tom: We opened for them at some point in the Seventies.
We were playing a big stadium, I think it was in Cleveland.
I remember they had Astro Turf and it was like standing on a
big carpet. ZZ Top’s big visual thing for that tour was
bringing out farm animals. They actually had farm animals on
stage. I remember we were all laughing about how ridiculous
that was. We walked out to watch their set and there was a
big pile of cow shit right in the middle of that big green
rug. We were laughing about that, and we sent somebody to go
get some plastic forks and took pictures of us like we were
about to eat it.
Jeb: With this tour, was ZZ Top cool that you were the
closers? Is there any ego left?
Tom: They are coming off a period where they have not
been touring a whole lot. The last few years, it seems to
me, that they have not been that steady into it. There was
never a question of the line up. We have been pounding it
out on the road a lot over the last ten years. We have built
ourselves up a little bigger than those guys. It is not like
they are the opening act. It is more of a co-headline type
of set. They will play a nice set that will almost be as
long as ours. It is not a situation where they are going to
go out and play a forty-five minutes.
Jeb: Rumors are leaking out that Aerosmith is going to
play "Walk This Way" in its entirety.
Tom: We don’t have an album called Walk This Way.
Jeb: Oh Shit! I know that. I mean Toys in the Attic.
I am so embarrassed.
Tom: We have been talking about it for years, and people
have been asking us about it for years; that topic has been
on simmer for quite a while. I don’t want to say anything to
raise peoples’ expectations because there is still a lot of
decision making to do before we get out there, but, yeah, we
are talking about that as an idea.
I think we have always been stymied by the fact that we
have this audience that spans so much time. You have less
people wanting the old stuff, but they are very intense
about it. You have another group that wants to hear the more
recent hits. We are trying to figure out how to do that and
how to make the audience go home happy. We are really
inspired by the idea, and the whole concept, of how these
songs will sound all brought up to date. If you look at the
Toys in the Attic album, then we have been playing
"Walk This Way" and "Sweet Emotion" all these years.
Jeb: I would love to hear "Uncle Salty."
Tom: There was a period where Steven [Tyler] and I did a
little duet of that. It was Steven singing the verses and me
on the bass. It was kind of a solo spot we did before going
into "Sweet Emotion." I am looking forward to the whole band
playing that song and hearing what it sounds like. We have
not done that song, fully as a band, since those days when
we recorded it.
Jeb: You went through a huge scare with cancer. Do you
have a clean bill of health?
Tom: I did go through a pretty shitty period with the
cancer treatment. I was very confident that they were going
to get rid of it. They told me they would get rid of it but
they also told me that I was going to have to go through
hell. They told me, all they way through the treatment, that
they were going to get me through it. They said, "We have
done this tons of times and you are going to heal but it is
going to suck a little bit." I go back for checkups every
couple of months and it is all clean.
Jeb: Your health and recovery are the most important
thing here but you had a Lou Gehrig like streak of never
missing an Aerosmith show broken due to your health issue.
Tom: That is true, it really screwed up my attendance
record. It was really tough thinking about the band going
out there without me. I didn’t have to agonize over the
decision as there was no way that it was going to work. I
was not going to be able to go on that tour. Two or three
months before the tour started, I was still telling
everybody around me that I was looking forward to being out
on tour with the band. The doctors, and the people around
me, looked at me with understanding eyes and I finally
realized that I was just not ready yet.
When people have a period where they have to do cancer
treatment, they have to go on a cul-de-sac for a while. A
lot of people can’t accept it. People get stuck on that,
"Why did I get it? Why did this happen to me?" way of
looking at things. Other people say, "I am keeping my
schedule full. I am not going to let this get me down." We
are all taught to admire that but people who really try to
do that are the ones who don’t get through it very well. You
have to accept it, which I did. It is now fading into the
distance.
Jeb: On a lighter note, I was emailed a picture of you,
in drag, playing the Queen of England in a production of
Banned in Boston, just the other night.
Tom: I had never sung a song in public before. I have
sung a little bit of background vocal parts that are blasted
into the band. This was a situation where I was supposed to
go up and sing with only a piano player and a drummer. I
have done this show for years and years. There was a period
of three years where they had me playing women, so I was
always in drag. Last year, I said that I needed a break, so
they made me John Adams. This year they came to me and said,
"How about this... you are in drag and you sing a song." I
got kind of terrified in that moment. Once it was out in the
open then I knew I was going to have to do it, so I embraced
it and I looked forward to it. I have to admit that I was
pretty damned nervous. It was one of those things where you
have to go outside of your comfort zone. It was a really fun
experience. I love slapstick comedy. I love making faces and
all of that stupid shit and I got to do it even more this
time.
Jeb: My son, who is an Aerosmith fan, saw the picture and
said, "That is not ‘Dude Looks Like A Lady,’ that is ‘Dude
Looks Like An Old Lady.’"
Tom: Oh God, I suppose so [laughing].
Jeb: Everyone knows the Aerosmith story and what depths
the band sunk too. Drug addiction destroyed Aerosmith to the
point that people were passing out on stage. Now, with
hindsight, how miraculous is it that you are where you are
at today.
Tom: I remember when I was young, in my twenties, and
having conventional thoughts of what I would be doing when I
was thirty-five. I just figured that I would have a regular
job by that age. For years, even after the band had made it,
I would go visit my parents and my mom would say, "I am glad
your band is doing well but when are you going to college?"
I would tell her, "Pretty soon, mom, pretty soon." She
really wanted me to be educated.
We have just slid into this, kind of like we did when we
were just kids. We had that period in the early Eighties
where we blew it and we threw a beautiful thing right into
the trash. We have learned that lesson and still remember it
to this day. I would never make a prediction as to how long
this band is going to be around; you just never know. Things
are usually pretty volatile and there is sort of a Crisis of
the Day all the time. We can feel all of the input from all
of the people who want to come and see us play. If, all of
the sudden, people were not that interested in coming to see
us, then we might start really seriously doing other stuff.
Luckily for us, there is still enough people out there who
want to see us live that we still get invited.
Jeb: I want to go way back to the showcase gig at Max’s
Kansas City, where Clive Davis signed the band. I was told
that Aerosmith had to pay to play that gig. I can’t believe
that story but thought I would ask if that was true.
Tom: I don’t know. I never heard anybody say that.
Whether some money changed hands to encourage them to let us
play that night—I suppose that is possible. Somebody in
management, or the record company, could have done that, but
I have never heard that is what happened.
Jeb: One of the things that really helped bring Aerosmith
back was MTV and the videos that you made. Was that a
conceived plan or was it a happy accident?
Tom: I remember MTV came about during that period when
the band was broken up. It was a revolutionary thing back
then. Up until then, there were rock television shows, but
it was still very scarce to be on TV. To be honest, it
wasn’t cool to be on most TV shows back then. There was
Don Kirshner’s Rock Concert, The Midnight Special
and a couple of other shows, but for the most part, there
were not any shows on TV where you would want to be caught
dead on. Televison was not that interested, either, to have
this loud, obnoxious music on the air.
MTV came along and changed all of that. I remember
driving around during that time thinking how Aerosmith was
missing that boat. We were on our way down and we were going
to miss out. Maybe that was one of the things that everybody
in the band noticed, and in their hearts said, "I want to be
part of this. I want to be around for this stuff." It might
have motivated everyone to do whatever it took to get back
in a room together and be a band again. Ever since then,
there are all these things that have come along, mostly
generated by new technology, where you are able to get out
there and show your music. I think that we are all way into
being there for these things when they come along.
Nowadays, I think the novelty of a music video has worn
off. That was an amazing thing for us. We didn’t predict
that. When we got the band back together, we knew we wanted
to be in on that. Our management, and the people around us,
suggested directors to work with and how to go about making
videos. We were very receptive. We really wanted to be a
part of it.
Jeb: You were no angel during the wild times of the band
but I have to ask if you were amazed to learn of the level
of addiction that Steven Tyler and Joe Perry had succumbed
too. It had to blow you away.
Tom: You are not really supposed to compare. When the
book came out then that was the end of that period of not
comparing. Steven and Joe decided to be very out front and
talk about all of those scarey war stories. Obviously, when
we were going through it, it was terrible. It was like, "Oh
my God, what is going on?" Everything was going down the
tubes and there was a feeling that this was something that
couldn’t be dealt with. We had absolutely no idea what to
do. I knew it was bad but I was in the party too. Luckily, I
never had a moment where I couldn’t get up and play. When I
read the manuscript to the book I said, "Holy shit, I didn’t
know that." I am actually glad that I didn’t know some of
that.
Jeb: The odds of one person getting clean and sober and
then actually improving where they were at in life before
their addiction hit is very rare. For all of you to do it is
a miracle.
Tom: Outside of the music or movie business, just out
there in life, the rates of people being able to stay clean,
or at least have their lives under control, are better than
they were twenty years ago, but the odds are still pretty
steep.
Jeb: My last one has to do with the name of the band.
Your drummer, Joey Kramer, is given credit for coming up
with the name ‘Aerosmith.’ Legend holds that another name
being considered was ‘The Hookers.’ I wonder what you think
your career might have been like if you had been called The
Hookers instead of Aerosmith?
Tom: We never would have been called The Hookers. It
never really even made it into the full band discussion. One
of the names we were thinking about was ‘Spike Jones.’ Joey
came up with ‘Arrowsmith’ and we were like, "No, that is
that book that you have to read in high school." Joey was
like, "No, man. A-E-R-O." Right away, everybody really dug
that idea. It didn’t mean anything and we weren’t trying to
say anything with it. It just seemed to be a cool word that
we identified with, so we kept it.
Back in those days, everybody used to hitchhike around
the city. We got a hold of a bunch of blank cigarette papers
and we stamped ‘Aerosmith’ on them. We would drive around in
our van and every time we would pick someone up, we would
give them one and say, "What do you think?" We were doing
our own crude marketing research. You have to be good at
self promotion, let’s face it.
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